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Mary Sue.

And I just heard millions of fandoms letting out a collective groan, as well as the cracking of fingers inching towards the keyboard to let off the flames of hate-filled comments. Guys, back away from the keyboard and please hear me out. I am here to deal with an issue concerning a character concept, and while critcisms are perfectly valid and encouraged I do not want this to turn into a big rant about how 'marysuesaretheworstthingeveryandgrrihatethemsomuchtheyallneedtodie!!!'

Ok? Are we good? Ok, let's do this.

So many of you know I've had a few ideas for Creepypasta OCs over time, with mixed results. Just to clarify, Meta is now a narrator OC and Vicky Timmins is completely disconnected from creepypasta altogether because she doesn't suit it at all, while Djed is my most successful and by far the one I'm the most comfortable actually calling a creepypasta oc. All of this was sorted in a previous journal, however I asked for help on the one leftover and still don't know what to do about her. 

I am of course talking about this young lady, Mary Sue: angelwolfchild.deviantart.com/…

I still want to know if she is good enough for a creepypasta oc or whether she should be relegated to a random oc like Vicky, but let me frame the question a little differently.

Why do you all seem to like her so much?



Out of all of the characters, Mary Sue has the most views, the most faves and the most comments. To this day people still keep faving or commenting (shoutout to the most recent one to fave her :iconrobotic-mind:, you are awesome!). She is the most popular. But why?

When I created Mary Sue my idea was not only as a proxy-like creature to Meta, but as what it would mean to have a Mary Sue in real life. Think about it. If you met a person who was visually flawless, impossibly talented, and overall just too perfect to be real... how would feel? To me, that would be creepy. The easiest way to describe it is to think of the Uncanny Valley effect, human enough to be there in front of you but just off enough to leave you unsettled. And when using that as a story idea, the main creepy aspect would be seeing how people would react to somebody like that and how that could drive them to paranoia and general uneasiness; in the one story I wrote this drives someone to murder. And that is the kind of thing that I personally find very creepy and scary, as the uncanny valley is something that gets at me.

But I don't get the impression that this idea is the universal reason why she's the most popular of my characters. When I look through comments, some do comment on the idea of someone like that really existing being creepy. However others just go into a rant about how bad Mary Sues are, and there are even comments that I don't know if they are genuinely calling this a bad/good idea or if it's just a joke. The feedback is mixed, and I'm sure at least some people see her as some kind of commentary on the state of ocs these days (with all the rants about how many ocs are Mary Sues, I can imagine some people liking the irony of having an oc that is deliberately designed to be a Mary sue.) But all of that is speculation, and it doesn't help me when I try to get feedback on how to improve her or whether I should use her for something different. I don't understand why she's so popular yet the response very rarely react to her as a creepy idea.

So why is it that you like her? Do you think she's got potential to be a creepypasta? What would you change about her to make her more suitable? And is it worth me investing time into these changes?

Answers please guys, I really want help on what to do with this character. With coming back to creepypasta with my fan-work for Candle Cove, I'd like to get back into it properly and finally decide if I can do something with Mary Sue that's worthy of the title.
  • Mood: Triumph
  • Listening to: Tais Toi Mon Coeur
  • Reading: This
  • Watching: Cinema Snob - Shock Treatment
  • Playing: Nothing
  • Eating: Nothing (That shall be remedied soon)
  • Drinking: Blackcurrent Juice
Name: Jodie Silver

Alias: Janice

Age: 31

Gender: Female

Sexuality: Asexual

Status: Single

Appearance: Standing at about 5”6”, with shoulder length blond hair, blue eyes and a fairly average physique. Often wears trousers, boots, long-sleeved and sometimes high-necked tops and a jacket when going out. Sometimes wears glasses when reading or using a computer.

Personality: Overall Jodie is quite an outgoing and friendly person, with a dry, sarcastic sense of humour but a lot of kindness and generosity. She does have a tendancy to tease people, and while not necessarily short tempered she’s not afraid to stand up for herself, even if that means getting her involved in a fight. Her biggest insecurity is with physical contact, particularly anything skin-to-skin. She identifies as asexual because she is not comfortable in the slightest with any skin contact beyond kissing or holding hands, however this doesn’t mean she doesn’t want a relationship; it would just have to be a platonic one, something that has so far escaped her. This insecurity carries over to her everyday actions, as she often has nothing but her hands and face exposed in public or at home, wears a full-body wet-suit swimming and is notoriously quick at taking showers. Besides this the only other thing that bothers her is memories of her the Candle Cove show, but while it’s still a niggling memory she hasn’t let that old fear completely consume her life.

Hobbies: Fencing, Acting, Painting, Cooking, Swimming.  

Backstory: Jodie wanted to be an actress from a very young age, getting into a young drama club at before a friend of her fathers spoke to her parents about putting her on a TV show called Candle Cove due to the previous actress leaving. They agreed and she got her first job, taking the role of Janice for the second season of the show. It was soon clear why the other actress has left, and Jodie found herself in a very disturbing experience; even just watching the first season to get an idea of the character left her unsettled. Between the puppets, the stories and the messed-up director, Jodie found herself having many nightmares about the show (particularly after the screaming episode). When production shut down Jodie and her parents moved away, but she continued to suffer trauma as a result of the show and started getting therapy, helping to deal with the nightmares and her sudden aversion to showing too much skin. Thankfully they calmed down after a couple of years, and she managed to complete her education fairly calmly. College was the best time, where she started taking up fencing (out of a subconcious instinct) and painting, even managing to win a fencing championship (with some comments that she was like a 'swash-buckling pirate'). Despite getting a drama degree and still loving the idea of being an actress, Jodie never managed to push herself back into acting properly and ended up with a job as a customer service advisor instead. She moved into a small city apartment, still keeping contact with her parents and having a decent social circle but generally being alone. She still has  occaisional therapy visits and her insecurities about her skin means she can only deal with platonic relationships, making holding onto a partner difficult. But she's manage to get a reasonably stable life, only keeping a single photo as a reminder of her time on the show.
Jodie 'Janice' Silver - Candle Cove Fan Profile
Edit: This was originally a journal post but I decided to make a deviation about it instead, just fit better. </b>

This is a concept that has been playing in my head for a while, looking at a way in which Janice could have grown up. This isn't the first time someone did this, it the story Candle Cove: Tales of the Laughing Stock explored this in the documentary style of the story having an interview with Jodie Silver, but this is my personal imagining. 
I have had two ideas regarding an older Janice, one where Skintaker finally captures Janice and ends up turning her 
into a living skeleton like him (Guys, please consider carefully before asking for more details on this idea... I love it in a twisted sense but I'm also highly disturbed that I came up with it in the first place) and the other is this one, looking at the actress Jodie Silver and seeing how she grew up with such an experience (but really this idea I've come up with could apply to just an older Janice as well, I just find it more psychologically fascinating to consider the actress growing up still haunted by memories of being Janice). 
Feedback is highly appreciated as always :D</span>

Candle Cove is owned by Kris Straub, not me. 

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Mary Sue.

And I just heard millions of fandoms letting out a collective groan, as well as the cracking of fingers inching towards the keyboard to let off the flames of hate-filled comments. Guys, back away from the keyboard and please hear me out. I am here to deal with an issue concerning a character concept, and while critcisms are perfectly valid and encouraged I do not want this to turn into a big rant about how 'marysuesaretheworstthingeveryandgrrihatethemsomuchtheyallneedtodie!!!'

Ok? Are we good? Ok, let's do this.

So many of you know I've had a few ideas for Creepypasta OCs over time, with mixed results. Just to clarify, Meta is now a narrator OC and Vicky Timmins is completely disconnected from creepypasta altogether because she doesn't suit it at all, while Djed is my most successful and by far the one I'm the most comfortable actually calling a creepypasta oc. All of this was sorted in a previous journal, however I asked for help on the one leftover and still don't know what to do about her. 

I am of course talking about this young lady, Mary Sue: angelwolfchild.deviantart.com/…

I still want to know if she is good enough for a creepypasta oc or whether she should be relegated to a random oc like Vicky, but let me frame the question a little differently.

Why do you all seem to like her so much?



Out of all of the characters, Mary Sue has the most views, the most faves and the most comments. To this day people still keep faving or commenting (shoutout to the most recent one to fave her :iconrobotic-mind:, you are awesome!). She is the most popular. But why?

When I created Mary Sue my idea was not only as a proxy-like creature to Meta, but as what it would mean to have a Mary Sue in real life. Think about it. If you met a person who was visually flawless, impossibly talented, and overall just too perfect to be real... how would feel? To me, that would be creepy. The easiest way to describe it is to think of the Uncanny Valley effect, human enough to be there in front of you but just off enough to leave you unsettled. And when using that as a story idea, the main creepy aspect would be seeing how people would react to somebody like that and how that could drive them to paranoia and general uneasiness; in the one story I wrote this drives someone to murder. And that is the kind of thing that I personally find very creepy and scary, as the uncanny valley is something that gets at me.

But I don't get the impression that this idea is the universal reason why she's the most popular of my characters. When I look through comments, some do comment on the idea of someone like that really existing being creepy. However others just go into a rant about how bad Mary Sues are, and there are even comments that I don't know if they are genuinely calling this a bad/good idea or if it's just a joke. The feedback is mixed, and I'm sure at least some people see her as some kind of commentary on the state of ocs these days (with all the rants about how many ocs are Mary Sues, I can imagine some people liking the irony of having an oc that is deliberately designed to be a Mary sue.) But all of that is speculation, and it doesn't help me when I try to get feedback on how to improve her or whether I should use her for something different. I don't understand why she's so popular yet the response very rarely react to her as a creepy idea.

So why is it that you like her? Do you think she's got potential to be a creepypasta? What would you change about her to make her more suitable? And is it worth me investing time into these changes?

Answers please guys, I really want help on what to do with this character. With coming back to creepypasta with my fan-work for Candle Cove, I'd like to get back into it properly and finally decide if I can do something with Mary Sue that's worthy of the title.
  • Mood: Triumph
  • Listening to: Tais Toi Mon Coeur
  • Reading: This
  • Watching: Cinema Snob - Shock Treatment
  • Playing: Nothing
  • Eating: Nothing (That shall be remedied soon)
  • Drinking: Blackcurrent Juice

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I made a quick Christmas Animation about NC finding a gift to give.
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Thanks so much for the favs and watch!!
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Hello there and HAPPY BIRTHDAY :)
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